Episode 282: I am a Child of God with CAIN the band singer Taylor Cain Matz

In this episode, I had the joy of sitting down with Taylor Cain Matz from the Christian band CAIN. Taylor shared the inspiration behind their new children’s book I’m So Blessed, and the powerful message it conveys: understanding our identity as children of God. We talked about how she imparts this belief to her own children and the profound impact it has on their lives. Taylor also shared how faith and music intertwine in her journey and offered practical advice on how to trust in God’s plan and find peace through daily spiritual practices. I hope you’ll find her insights as inspiring as I did! For more on Taylor and her band, visit CainTheBand.com and follow them on Instagram at @CainTheBand.

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Taylor, I'm so excited to have you today. So thrilled. I have to start out this interview by telling you that I have this new calendar in my kitchen. It's like a digital calendar that shows my kids, you know, what's coming up today and where everybody has to be. And one of my kids, my 11 year old on Sunday goes, mom, Are you seriously talking to Cain the band and I was like, yes, I am.

How did you know that? She's like, I saw it on Tuesday and she was like, that's so cool. You're so cool. And I was like, my kids now think I'm cool. So thank you for that. That is so great. I got you some brownie points. That's awesome. So you're a kid. So they, they've heard our music. They love your music. Yes, yes.

When I'm so blessed, came out and became, you know, a viral hit. We listened to that over and over in the car on the way to school last year, and it's, that's awesome. We have a good day playlist that they like to turn on in the morning when they're getting ready and it's at the beginning of the playlist and they love it.

Come on. Yes. That's so sweet. That makes me so happy. Well, it's funny because. You know, I'm so blessed is like a few years old. It feels like an old song to me. Wow. But my daughter, she's turning two tomorrow and it is officially her favorite song and she can sing every word. So it's kind of cute because I'm like, there's been a resurgence of I'm so blessed in the cane household.

Like all of our kids are latching onto it. And So, yeah. And for her to sing all my best day, I'm a child of God. I don't even know if she knows what that means yet, but it really is. They know those little kids. They know I've had all these really amazing experiences with like my tiny children, when they're barely able to talk, they can just see a picture of Jesus and they know who he is.

It's like, they just know. They do know it's almost like he's just been talking to them since they were in the womb, you know? Oh, that's awesome. That's great. Okay. I'm so excited to hear how this all started. Like what, you know, what were the beginning seeds that were planted? Did you always know you wanted to do music and, you know, just fill me in on how it all began.

Yeah. Okay. So it's really funny. Um, I don't think a lot of people know this, but my sister and I were a wedding singer duo and Logan was not like Logan was not in the picture at all. Okay. Didn't do music. Logan was really shy. And so the two of us were like, yeah, we're gonna like, this is gonna rock. We're going to go do some weddings.

And, um, we only did one wedding and, um, the. This wedding in particular was in, Alabama and it was, they had a dog in the wedding. I'm not going to say too much because anyone can get married however they want, but this wedding was wild. It was outside. They had a pool and they, the awning they were standing under blew into the pool.

It was like, I would say it was like a disaster, but our, our song went well. But after that, we were like, I think we should reconsider doing this. And Logan, do you want to audition to be in the band? Um, no, but it's cute. It's like the three of us, you know, we're three and three years. I don't know how close.

You know, your kids are, but it's crazy now knowing how this works. Like my mom, I cannot believe she did that, but so yeah, right now we're all a year apart and we grew up our, my dad's a pastor and my mom was our youth pastor. So we were just certain. My dad is an amazing singer and he plays the guitar, plays a piano.

Um, so it's just really sweet. Being a parent now and just seeing how much our parents, they could have said, this is our platform. You guys, you know, do your own thing, but they really use it as a way for us to get some reps in some practice. If we showed any interest, they were like, Hey, come on up. You can help dad playing the band.

And so there's video of us at like, I think Logan's eight playing the drums, Madison's nine playing the bass and I'm 10 playing the guitar and singing with my dad. So it's, it really, yeah, it was like, it was a full family affair. I mean, all the way as, as young as I can remember. So that's kind of the early seeds for us.

That's how we got started. Okay. And then, so. Keep going with the wedding singer thing. Then when, once you decided to pivot from that, what happened? Um, okay. So it's really crazy because when we, we sit around and we were like talking about, okay, when did this really start for us? We all, we were not forced to do this.

We all went to college together. We, um, I know we chose to like stay together and. Honestly, I had gotten a full ride. I had gotten, um, just like a scholarship to sing in a show choir in this college near, you know, where our town was. So I was like, okay, I'll stay home. Madison, Logan, we're still at home. And ,it's pretty awesome that.

You know, my, my parents, like I said, I can't brag on them enough, but I had, I didn't really know what I wanted to do. And I think that, I don't know if it's me being the oldest or kind of the. The planner, maybe more of the type a, I just was like, how am I going to make money? Like, that's kind of what you start thinking about your senior year and going into college.

Like, um, I want to be impressive. Everybody's asking what you're going to do. And I think saying that I wanted to be a singer, like I'm already doing that in college, but like, how are you realistically, like, come on, how are you going to make a living doing that? And I think that that got to me. So I picked a degree in the medical field, which is so funny because I'm so scared of needles.

I'm horrified of going to the doctor. So I think just saying like, none of this was really adding up, you know, for me personally, but I'm already invested and I'm already in the classes. I'm deep invested in this. And, um, It's really cool because my dad, I sang at church one Sunday and my dad was like, you know, I look back at home videos of you and in every single one you're pretending to preach or you're praying or you're singing.

Those were the things that as a child, when you had no worry and no fear, that's what you were doing. And now, you know, I just, I want you to feel the freedom that if you feel called to do something else, God is going to take care of you. God's going to provide for you. And so you should do that. And I was like, dad, does that mean I can for real drop out of my classes and just go do what I feel like I'm supposed to do?

And I mean, what parents is yes, but they did, they were like, you need, you need to go, like, we feel strongly about you doing this. So. All of that said, had my dad, and I mean, and my mom, they not encouraged me to do that. I immediately, I'm telling you the next day, I was like, I'm done with this. And I left, my sister was in school and she was at Troy University.

And I was like, Hey, I'm coming down there. And all my classes, like everything transferred over. I went there and I started studying music business and I was just so happy. I felt so fulfilled. I loved it so much. I loved it. The next year, Logan's like, Hey, big shock. I'm coming down there too. And so we're all, we all lived in a house together.

And we, at this point did not know that we could sing in harmony. We were all strictly just like a backing band for my dad. And so we, we played instruments and. Maybe, you know, I, I was always singing, but never together. And so we, we had been advised to like, enter this competition too. I don't know if you know, there's two artists that we were gonna, we had entered this competition to open for.

There's a guy named Dave Barnes, who we loved his music. We're still, we're friends with him today. And then Andrew Ripp, he's amazing. You can hear him on the radio all the time, but this was like 12 or 13 years ago. And we'd entered this competition and we. We were like, guys, let's just see, like, I know we can play, but let's just see how singing sounds and can we work this out?

And I think the minute that we started singing, I don't even remember what song it was, but it locked in. And you know, when you get like the hair stand up on your neck or your arm, I was like, okay, I think there's something to this. Like, this might be the Holy spirit, like pointing us in the right direction.

And so we, we even invited friends over and we're like, Hey, we're going to, we're going to sing for you. And like, does this sound good? And everybody was like, let's go. And they even created a page to help us. We won the competition and we got to play our first ever show was a sold out crowd at workplace theater in Birmingham, Alabama.

It was crazy. We did not deserve to be there at all. But, um, anyway, so, I mean, it's kind of crazy that. Us like Kane starting out was, I mean, not until college for us. So everything really took off after that. That was kind of the defining moment for us. Yeah. Oh, I love the advice that your dad gave you. That is really.

Really special. And it takes a leap of faith, I think, for a parent to tell their child that, because think about kind of the responsibility he's taking on to tell you, like, I know if you feel called to do this, go do this. And then what happens if like six months later, you can't buy groceries, you know?

Exactly. And honestly, like that is kind of what happened. I mean, it was like the next few years for us, you know, we all graduated college, but then We got, um, my grandfather, I'm telling you, it's a full family affair, but he was in the music business and he was at that show , in Birmingham. And he was like, guys, I think I don't have a background in Christian music.

And I know that's all you've grown up doing, but I do have open doors for you in country. Do you want to take a try? Do you want to, you know, do you want to move to Nashville and see how this goes? And I prayed about it. Obviously our parents are involved in everything. And they were like, Let's just see what happens.

And, um, so anyways, the next. You know, five years we were just, we had moved to Nashville and it's so much more expensive there. We're like living, all living together, one bank account, trying to work multiple jobs. You can make it happen. Um, and I know that my parents, I'm sure, I'm sure that I've never even asked them, but like, guys, what did you think was going to happen with this?

Because it did seem like a lot of years. And honestly, we're three, Pastors kids who are now playing in bars for like three to five hours sets. And we're spending a lot of our time. In, you know, pretty dark places that we had never, that was not for it for us. We were in the church and, you know, three of us, like, it's amazing.

We had never really rebelled from our faith. Our parents really walked it out in front of us. So this was big culture shock. This was almost like how we had lived our lives. It just, it really took a toll on the three of us. And even though we were like still reading our Bibles. So, you know following Jesus had a relationship with the Lord It's it's really true that who you hang out with and who you spend time with it affects your behavior.

It affects The fruit of your life. Mm hmm. And so we could quickly see that five years down the road we were just trying to chase this dream that that we did feel called to do but The fruit of our lives, all three of us, it was like anxiety and depression. Madison was dealing with that. Um, like body image, just how you see yourself, like all of that stuff, like really vain things that was like.

Big time to me, um, loneliness. I was single. And then Logan, I feel like he just was like, felt purposeless, kind of like, what are we doing? You know, like you wake up and you haven't been to church in forever. And the things that we were raised to do. Just simple things. Um, it's like we had just neglected those and you could feel a difference.

And I think it's amazing that we went through that, honestly, because now having, you know, I'm going to have two kids soon. It's just, I'm thankful that that is a part of my testimony because now I can relate and say, Hey, if you like there, we always say there are spiritual principles. that apply to you, whether or not you apply them.

And I am living proof of that. That when you don't spend time with godly friends in the presence of God, in the house of the Lord, um, your life, I mean, it just suffers. And there there's no other way to put that. And I felt that firsthand. And so, um, yeah, it's, um, It's probably really, really wild for my parents to see like, Oh my goodness, like, okay, we encourage them to do this.

And now, you know, five years in, but, um, and sorry, I'm just like rambling on. I feel sorry. No, this is so good. And I just wanted to, um, interject and tell you that that is something that I talk about all the time with my husband, with my children, that it's always the little things. It's always those small and simple things that really make the biggest difference.

Like those are, those are always the answers because they work, not because they're boring or cliche or over. Yes. Overplayed or overdone or whatever. And, you know, my husband is a recovering addict, and so he goes to 12 step meetings every week, and I've gone with her for years too. And every time someone, you know, one of the addicts that we love in recovery ends up like, you know, having a relapse, then coming back, he always asks them, like, what happened?

And every time. There's some version of the same answer, which is I just stopped doing the small things. I just stopped doing those little things, you know, very similar to what you're talking about where it's like those little things I call it spiritual Wi Fi. Like if, if you imagine like, you know, Wi Fi.

Like a signal, you know, if you're doing things to be close to it, then your signal with God is really strong. But like the farther you move away from it, it's like, he doesn't move. He's always there, but like, we move farther or closer to him. Anyway, I was just like, so aligned with what you're talking about.

It's that's so good. That's amazing too about your husband, because I don't know, but Logan, my brother, his wife, Emily, she is celebrating six years of sobriety in October. That's wonderful. So this runs so deep in our family and it's, it's just been a minute, like what you're talking about. She goes to the meetings and she's faithful to do the small things and it's, it's really convicting because it's like.

Well, I need to be doing that too. There's really small things and, you know, little steps that God has given me that I know, I know I'm supposed to be in his word. You want so badly for that stuff to not be true sometimes, but it's just true. It's just a fact. It doesn't even have to be. Um, emotions involved, but it's just a fact that when you do what the Bible tells you to do, um, everything else lines up.

And honestly, that's what happened for us next. And that's why I'm here talking to you today is because we decided as a group. We're just going to lay this down. This is, this dream has almost overtaken maybe the initial calling that, that we once felt. And so we found, we honestly, we were like, I don't even care what church it is.

We just need to go and we need to be faithful there. Like just. Dig and dive into the body of Christ. So we went to a local church, all three of us, and just said, whatever serving you guys need, and we didn't even want to do music. We just wanted to serve. Like, I think Madison was in the nursery. Logan did coffee.

I was a greeter, like whatever you guys need. Um, we just want to be a part and feel like a family again, and just. Um, stop striving, gosh, like just stop being so exhausted and just come rest for a while. And it's amazing because the minute that we got back into church, um, our manager now he was in the crowd and one Sunday they, I guess, I guess word got out.

I don't really know, but they were like, Hey, we know that you guys saying, and we, we really would love like we can. that. And so they asked us to, to lead worship. And gosh, of course I cried. It was so hard to sing. I think it was like, man, this is what I've been missing all along. And singing to Jesus was like, Oh, this is why I wanted to do this in the first place.

It felt so good. And it's, it's different when you use your talents. It's in a place where it's just not meant to be used, you know, singing, just kind of cover songs that people are, you know, passed out drunk. They don't even really care what you're singing. Honestly, you're just background music, but then to be in a place where you're singing and people don't even notice you, you are lifting up praise to heaven.

And it was like, it just felt life changing again for me. It was like this. This is where it was supposed to be. And we all felt it. And I think in that moment, we would have been happy to just do that. Like that was good enough just to sing right there, you know? And, but our manager was in the crowd. We didn't know him.

He came up to us afterwards and was like, guys, you, you should be doing something with this. So it's so crazy that honestly, I think it was like the three month process in total when we signed our first record deal. Wow. Um, after just, Submitting everything to God and being okay with, um, uh, it never happening how we planned and now, isn't it just like God and his full circle plan for us that, um, I've gotten to do more than when I ever dreamed I could do in country music and honestly, um, there's classic venues like Grand Ole Opry, the Ryman.

Um, I've We've played theaters in Los Angeles and Atlanta, and we've, we've traveled the entire, um, U. S. doing music, and that never happened doing country music, but because I'm singing about Jesus, somehow, we've been invited into all these circles, and I've gotten to do more than I could have ever dreamed.

So, it's really, yeah, it's really amazing. It fills me with joy. So much joy to get to talk about it. And I hope that whoever's listening today, it's not about music. You know what I mean? It's not about what your job is. It really is. It's the small principles that we're talking about, about, um, listening to that voice and being obedient.

And when you feel like there's something that you need to lay down, Oh, I know that it's going to feel really sad and maybe like you're losing something, but you're going to gain something better. And, and now I know that and now looking into the future, if I'm ever asked to do that again, hopefully I'll be able to do it confidently and just say, okay, I can trust.

And I know that something better is going to come from this. Yeah. Well, this is so fun to hear all of this background to how this happened because, you know, most people I think are like me where they heard your viral hit and then just started following you and it, it's easy to think this is probably always been the dream.

This was always the path, you know? And I don't know that much about the music world or how it all happens. I know. I mean, so I live in Orange County, which is just South of LA. So yeah, I mean, we love it here too, but it's, well, it's an interesting place though, because it's very, what you were talking about with like worldly things and Hollywood and.

And outward appearance and success and fame and money. All of those things are pretty forefront of the world that I feel like I'm surrounded by. And I grew up with cousins in the South who lived in Alabama. And I always loved it when I went there because people were kind, people were God, people, they were, you know, it was just such a different feel.

So I live in a world here where it's fine. It's very much removed from that and it's different and yet I think one of the coolest things from my perspective was when your music went viral, it was mainstream. It wasn't like, Oh, just for people who listen to Christian music that are like, you know, it was like something that a ton of my, and I'm in the influencer world.

So I was seeing a ton of people use your music for reels and I was, yeah, it was like popping up everywhere and not just. in Christian music world, but like in everywhere. And so that seems really cool to me that you guys kind of brought this awareness, even to people who aren't maybe seeking out like Jesus music, this thought of I'm so blessed and, and I have this great life and I wake up and, and I can look at, you know, things from a different viewpoint.

That was a really cool thing to see just popping up all over on social media. That's crazy. It's still even funny. Because I'm just It hasn't really set in that that's kind of what happened, you know, that is what happened. Yeah. Wow. That praise God for that. I mean, I think it's funny that sometimes even in the Christian circles, we would get a little, not too much, but a little bit of backlash of like, that is such a cheesy message.

And like, Yeah. you know, I don't know. It's almost like I'm so blessed, but they just don't know where we've come from then. Because when you can, sometimes you just need a reminder of that simple message that, okay, on my worst day, which we had a lot of those, I'm a child of God on my best day. I'm still a child of God.

And we're, we really are. We're all level at the foot of the cross, you know? Yes. Um, so yeah, that's really exciting though. And maybe Maybe people are looking for more, um, encouraging spirit filled songs and they are, they just, yeah. And they don't even know what they're looking for, but that's amazing that our song was kind of put out into the world at a time when, you know, COVID was going on and.

People we really wrote it based around that because I mean at the end of the day everything got stripped away from us We were even trying to go and tour. It was gonna be our first tour ever And our first song was sent to radio and all the entire tour got shut down Obviously which in the grand scheme of things that's not a big deal.

There was so much worse going on but for us it was like Are you kidding me? Like we just got a record deal and now we have, we're not, it's just not going to go anywhere again. That's what it felt like. So it was cool to, we really needed to pump ourselves up and saying, okay, I'm so blessed. Like that was just a song written during that time.

So it's just funny how God just, he knows what he's doing and that's so cool that our music even reached you. That's amazing. Yeah. And so many other people too, who I know. Aren't looking for that. That's not like their, their chosen genre. And still it just, I think, I think truth feels good to people. So they are drawn to it, you know, come on.

That's a word. That's good. Yeah. So you guys took that and created a children's book with it, which is so cool. I really wanted to have it to hold up. And my five kids, one of them stole it because it was. On my desk downstairs, you know, it's great. I mean, they had read it, but then I had it ready to go a couple of days ago.

Okay. It's ready. I'm going to have it for my interview and then it disappeared. So that's how much it's loved in this house, but I would love to hear just kind of the inspiration behind that and why you guys decided to take this message to the children's Yes. Um, I never, first of all, never thought that We would do that.

I just, that wasn't ever in my long term plans for us, but, um, we were kind of presented with the opportunity. Like, is there anything that you guys feel strongly about right now? And we were new into being parents when this was kind of thrown around and it was like, yeah, you know what? Um, I think we were, you know, when you do your registry and you just start looking for, but you don't even know what you're looking for, but there's, I mean, I'm not trying to knock anybody, but there's a lot of literature out there that I just didn't want in my household.

I really started to crack down on, what are we, what am I going to tell Stevie and what is she going to read about? And it makes you want it, like, you don't want them to just be flipping through pages and stumble on something that, um, They don't need to know about, and they don't need to be speaking over themselves, just plain and simple.

Right. Um, it's funny because like I called my mom and I was like, you may have felt strict as a parent, but like, I'm about to be so much worse. No, I'm trying to find balance. When you become your parent and you're like, I always said I would never do that. And now I want to do it. Yep. I know I'm trying to find balance though, but, um, so this book, we were like, okay.

Something that we could tell with our kids. I mean, just simple things, even the way that the colors are, um, we wanted to do bright, really fun. That's kind of our branding, but we wanted to put that in the book because. They love colors that we want them to be able to see it at an early age. Like even just the factual information that you know about little kids.

We were trying to use all of this. Um, but I'm so excited. Um, we, so I am Taytay Tangerine. I'm an orange and I'm wearing hats and I'm wearing these striped fun bell bottoms. So I feel like I got to be myself. But we made ourselves this fruit and I think, I think that tied into like the fruit of the spirit, like the whole thing.

We just wanted like any good memories that we had from, from being a kid and things that we took in from vacation Bible schools and just all that stuff. Like we really dumped it into this book, but the cutest part to me is each of us, it follows our individual stories. So you have Maddie Mellon, she's a watermelon.

You follow her story, logo, women, you follow his story. Um, and it's just simple things that can happen that when you're a kid, um, like I know Stevie fell at the park the other day, it was her first big fall off the swing and it was devastating and it ruins their day. And it, you know, we tried to really bring it into like.

What are simple messages that you can feel or you get really embarrassed? Logan gets really embarrassed in his story, and that's a big thing that he struggled with as a kid. And so we, um, Madison's is that her birthday, her friends forgot. That it was her birthday. And I feel like that's, that's something that we were impacted by as kids.

You don't get invited to the party. And so we really just tried to make it practical and just to show that like, okay, even when this happens, you can bring it back to that simple message of, but Stevie says, I'm a child of God. And I really want that to sink in for all of our kids and for kids that get this book.

I'm hoping that, um, Just people that see it on the shelves or they see it, you know, wherever you purchase books that that message of just remembering I'm a child of God, no matter what else is going on in your circuit, like your circumstances, it doesn't matter what your house looks like, what your parents cars look like.

It doesn't matter what you look like, the clothes you're wearing. Um, we really tried to just bring it back to you. Who you are and your identity is because God says you're mine and then that is good enough. So, um, yeah, it's just been really fun. And our kids, you know, it's, our kids are tough critics and it's gonna, it was going to be the worst if they were like totally uninterested in the book, but they like it.

So it's so good. And Stevie has my copy right now. She keeps it in her little, she has her little book area. So, um, so far so good with the kids. Yes. I want to ask you when you say I'm a child of God, I know what that means to me, but what does that mean to you or what do you teach? You guys teach your children that even Gosh, I know that's so good.

Okay. Well, I think, um, Gosh, it is, it is kind of a crazy thing, because I haven't even really talked to Stevie about, like, what, what does all this look like, and how does this make sense for her? But being a child of God. I think Stevie has an amazing dad. She has an amazing father on this earth. And when I think about that and try to talk to her about how God is her father and how much better, how much more he loves her.

And we pray every night. That because she's a child of God, she has access to protection to salvation to, um, the Holy Spirit to blessing. There's so many things that I'm, I'm just trying like every night before we go to bed in our prayers, like we read scripture. And so I don't know, I really, this is really eye opening.

Cause it's like, wow, how do you explain to a two year old? Like, what does that mean to you? But I had a really great dad growing up. And so for me and hopefully Stevie too, that, you know, some people, when they hear that God is their father, that makes them feel sad and that makes them feel scared. And it, it actually is like a very tainted view of what a father should be.

But in my. case, I'm so thankful and really blessed that when we talk about God being Stevie's father, being my father, I'm a child of God. Um, it's just the safest place you could ever be in because everything coming from God, it says that every perfect gift comes from above. And so that's, That's what I've really just been trying to drill home with her.

Everything good comes from your father. So it's so good. And I think there's probably 40 year olds that are going to listen to this, who maybe understand what that means, or they're still trying to figure that out. And so I think your answer is so profound when you're saying you can find safety in that and protection.

And I love what you said about, you know, if you can, because I think about my relationship with my dad and I have an incredible dad as well. And when I've gone through some really hard things, like particularly when I went through a miscarriage that was just devastating after I had seen the baby's heartbeat and was so sad.

Um, I, like the thought that came to me was, okay, how much do you trust your dad? Like my real, like my, well Heavenly Father is my real dad too, but like my earthly father, you know, if he was like, Hey, Corinne, like I already know the plan. I already know exactly what's going to happen and it's all going to be okay.

I would be like, okay, and I would just listen because I trust my dad so much. Like anything my dad says, I can take it to the bank. That's right. That's right. So to think about that with, and, and I know that that's a privilege that I have because I had a wonderful dad, but I think that most of us can think about someone that was a kind of a parent figure that we know we could trust completely.

And then, you know, thinking about. How much more perfect, you know, your father in heaven is it's a really cool concept, but I loved what you said about safety and protection. I don't know that I would have used those words with my kids. So that was really profound. Good. Well, that's great. I don't, yeah, I think that's just been when you realize that.

You can't keep your kids safe. I mean, as much as I try, like her falling off the swing was like devastating to me. It's just like, I'm the worst. And so anyways, I've just been like big time into the verse that I quote is the angel of the Lord and camps around about those who fear him and delivers them.

Taste and see that the Lord is good and blessed is the man who trusts in him. So that's just kind of, that's my take that I've been on lately. That's Psalm 34, seven and eight. I love that. Yeah. I've just been kind of running, running through that, but, um, no, that's, that's amazing. And I, I love hearing any advice that you want to give, because being a mom of five, like just.

So admire that. Gosh, how, how old, like, you know, what, how, what's the age range? It's 11 to one. So we've, we've got almost the full range. I mean, I don't have teenagers yet, but we're getting close. We're getting close to that. Yes. But it is a joy and your kids come in such different. I think you'll find that when you have your next child, that your kids come in such different needs and different.

Personalities and you know, I, I thought when I was becoming a parent that like, Oh, I'm going like my first little girl, I'm going to name her Annabelle and she's going to be very girly. And we're going to put bows on her and she's going to love dance. And she came out as opposite as can be. She's kind of like a tomboy.

She's like, don't put a bow on me. I hate pink, you know? Um, and she's wonderful. She is, she has grown into this girl who is. Becoming more confident in who she is. She's kind. She's thoughtful. She really cares about others. And yet she's so different from what I thought she was going to be. And then my second daughter is all things girly.

And so it's, it is just really interesting to see that they come how they come. Yeah. But the most important thing to me is to show them, not just Say to them like, Oh, this is what's going to really keep you grounded in life, or these are the things that matter, but show them, like, I want them to see that my daily spiritual practice are, those things are really important to me and they see me doing that.

They see me praying, they see me writing scriptures and that it's not just like, I'm telling you to do this because it's a good idea, but they see that that's where I go for all of my strength and answers. So, yeah, I think. You know, showing your kids by example. And that's what you guys are doing with your whole life, like with your whole mission and purpose of everything that you're doing.

So that's pretty cool. Not every parent. Thank you. Well, we're trying. That's awesome. Thank you. All right, Taylor, one last question for you. If there's one message that you want people listening to this podcast episode to remember, what do you want that one message to be? Message. Okay. I feel like we've talked about it today a lot, but I think just to recap, because I feel like it's really important.

And I've been, I feel like the Holy Spirit's just been dropping that, um, in my heart a lot is just start with the small things. And whenever we look far ahead, that's when anxiety and fear come, I think. But if we could just wake up and today just say, okay, Holy Spirit, what do you need me to know today?

And what do you want me to do today? And how can I be aware of just like, I don't want to miss anything that you have for me today, because he is ready to give you the next steps. I know he is. I believe that I believe that for my life. And then when we do that, we don't have any fear or any regret of like, Oh, I'm missing, there's more I'm supposed to be doing.

Um, I deal with that a lot. It's just kind of like guilt or like, what else? I love to do that, beat myself up about things. So, um, I feel like that's been helping me, but those principles, even though they seem, you know, simple and maybe silly sometimes, like, I just want to encourage you, like, just go to church.

And tithe and read your Bible and spend quiet time with God, whatever that looks like, just talk to him, just look up and give a minute of your day and just say, I'm here and I'm, I'm ready to be used by you. And like, you will see it. We will see that if we just do those small little things, it doesn't have to be grand.

Because you and I have both experienced that when we do that, he lines it up better for us than what we could have done with all the striving and all the hard work. You still have to work hard, but it's like running downhill. You feel the wind in your hair and you're so, you're so refreshed in doing it God's way.

So, um, yeah, just for like letting me share a little bit with your listening family. Um, this has just been so awesome and I love what you're doing and gosh, maybe when we're out your way, we can get all the kids together. That would be fun. Go to the beach and hang out. Yes, yes, yes. Oh my gosh, this was so good.

And a lot of things that you said I needed too, so thank you for Oh, same, same for me. Coming prepared and bringing the spirit and saying all of the right things. It was so good. Where can people find you guys and, um, listen to her music, buy her book, you know, follow, where can they follow all the good things you guys are doing?

Okay, that's so awesome. Thank you. Um, so if you go Instagram is our favorite, we're on everything, but Instagram, um, we run that ourselves. So if you message, you're going to, or comment, you're going to hear from one of the three of us. So, um, at Cain the band, it's spelled C A I N. And, um, I think it's that way on Facebook and the other platforms.

Do we even use X? Is that what it's called? Yes. I don't get on there either, but some people do. Yeah. We're not smart enough. Some people do, but, um, and then came the band. com that's our website and you can find where we're playing shows or coming in your area. Um, you can find links to buy the book there.

Um, the kid's book I'm so blessed, but yeah, reach out. We love to hear from you guys. It's really cool to find out. I mean, I'm so glad that you reached out. I never would have known that our stuff had even made it your way. So it's so cool. Yes, you guys are incredible and you're touching so many lives and doing so much good.

So thank you for taking the time to talk to me today. Thank you. Thank you for the time. You're just wonderful. And I, I really, like, honestly, some of the things that you said about just going with The flow of God and not trying to fight against it. I'm like right in the middle of a kind of career change where I'm, I have to keep doing, I've been doing fashion blogging for 11 years and I have to keep doing that for a certain amount of time because it feeds my family.

But I'm definitely feeling super called to move into this direction of teaching people about codependency and, um, It's a big thing. It's a big shift. It's a big, like, you know, writing a book and speaking and doing things like that that are very different than the way I've provided for my family for the last, you know, More than a decade.

So it was just good to hear what you said. Cause it, it really resonated with me. Okay, good. Oh my gosh. Well, what if we just pray about it right now? Would you be cool with that? Cause I think that that's probably like the hardest decision ever. Yes. Yes. And I love your style too. I was like looking at your page, so you're just doing great with that.

Um, yeah, man. Well, that's so cool that we talked about that. Cause that's, that's great. It's probably just a lot, yeah, on you that you're thinking about. Um, but you're, yeah, would that be okay if we just, like, said a little prayer? Yes. Okay. Do you want to or do you want me to pray? Yeah, I'll pray. Okay. Thank you.

Great. Okay. God, thank you so much that, um, just so blessed that I got to meet Corinne and I just ask you Lord, like, I think everything that we talked about today was amazing. It was obviously a divine appointment. It was like what we needed to hear. And I just pray right now. I speak in faith over Corrine and her family in this next step.

I just thank you Lord for clarity. I thank you God that. You're going to make this decision really simple. And I pray that you would like just audibly your Holy spirit. You would just give, um, little next steps that she can follow and that people would come up to her and give just words of affirmation.

We just want, um, science that would be amazing to just know that she's on the right track. I pray that you would bless her for her faithfulness and what she's already been doing and that you would find a way to where these two worlds intersect and it would be just cohesive and smooth for the whole family.

So we just thank you God. We can't wait to see what happens with this in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Oh, thank you so much. That's going to be awesome. I mean, that sounds like so exciting, you know. It's exciting. It needs to be done. I mean, there's so many people who live in fear and in codependency and they don't even know.

They don't even know that there's like a better way to just let go. Let God, you know, surrender. Yeah. I feel like we, the three of us really And so we've kind of like dealt with that, like within the last year, like going to therapy and learning that, Oh, are the way that we're like almost treating it like a marriage.

And now we all have spouses, you know, like we kind of had to go through it was like, Oh, this isn't like just called being close to your family. Like that is like, we're all learning learning curve, but, um, okay. I have to ask you one more thing and this is probably. It's a weird thing to ask, but just really quickly, I like received a blessing when I was a teenager that, um, that was written down that was kind of like a, this is what's to come in your life and it only, you only get it one time in my church and for the rest of your life.

And there was something in there that said like to develop the gift of music and that it would be a blessing always and open doors to individuals and peoples as a whole. It said twice that it would open doors. I don't sing, but I do play the piano. And I was like a piano performance major in college for three semesters.

And then I dropped out because I was like, I'm, I just was like over it. And I wanted a different, you know, I wanted to like experience things in life. I did classic. I was classically trained in voice and it's almost like they are pushing you towards kind of like an operatic style sometimes, like, you know what I mean?

Not like commercial. I'm like, Oh, this is so cool. I don't know. So anyways, go ahead. I only played classical music. So I'm, it's like, it hasn't come up for 20 plus years, but now that I'm almost 40 and I'm, I just keep thinking, like, what did that mean? And so do you think there, what do you think as far as, is there, is there anything that comes to mind that would bridge the gap between music and, and teaching people about self development or codependency?

Or is there anything that you can even imagine that would be helpful? That would connect the two. Well, totally. I think, I mean, my first thought is like, so cliche, but I think that whatever, like wherever your church is, I think that maybe put yourself out of your comfort zone may, I don't know if that would, but like say, Hey, I want to serve and like play piano for a church because I feel like kind of giving that, that to God right away.

That would be like kind of your tithe and you just giving, okay, I'm just going to start here. Yeah. Um, because. Wow, there could be, there could be so much stuff that goes with that. You know what I mean? Even if you play music and that is your backing track for you to have like an audible, um, like a book for someone to read where like, okay, it's the music and these are some steps.

I don't know. You know what I mean? Like your voice. With you playing like there's so many things like you being able to play piano is incredible and music is so healing to people That's so true. You know, like I feel like God God really works through music. And so anyways, that's so exciting That's crazy about that.

It is crazy. It's weird It's kind of a thing that I like Put aside didn't think about and then I've kind of just really pulled it out and been looking at it Like what does this mean? So it's kind of, yeah, it's got to be something that's so cool. Thank you. Keep me updated. I will. I will. Yeah. Are you guys coming to California anytime soon?

Um, okay. Oh, look, we were just there so much this summer and now I'm so sad because I would have just come over. And honestly, friend, I feel like I'm the most boring of the three, like Madison and Logan, you will love them. So you have to, you have to meet them. They're so great. That would be fun. But you guys were just here.

So it might be a minute. Um, I'll look, I'll look, but I feel like, yeah, I need to send you. Cause sometimes I'm even like, okay, are we in Wyoming or are we in, like, I gotta figure out where I can look too. I can look too. Okay, cool. But I will for sure. I'll, I'll let you know. Cause that would be really fun to get together.

I love fashion too. So we should talk about that. Yeah. Yes. Love your hats. I love it. So fun. Thank you. Yes. You're welcome. Thanks for your time today. I know you're super busy, so. Oh my gosh. No, thank you. It means a lot to me too. And this is just the, this is the beginning of our fun friendship. I love it.

Well, thank you again. And yeah, let's stay in touch. I will, I will let you know what comes of all of this. Yes. Okay. I'm going to, I'll reach out on my Instagram too, so that we can stay connected. I'll go follow you. Okay. Perfect. Thank you so much. All right. Talk to you soon. Thank you. Thanks. Okay. Bye.

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